Here is solution for general public to escape time with freezing and not only the rich!

1999-03-12

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We get it, cryonics and freezing your body is very expensive even if it doesn't cost million dollars!. In case of not knowing what were talking about or what is cryonics, here is our website : https://objectivity-converter.webnode.gr/l/in-year-2025-people-started-to-freeze-to-escape-time-and-skipping-time-with-freezing-becomes-slowly-practical/

They say : "This German Start-Up Will Cryogenically Freeze Your Body for $200K & Revive It in the Future" and sounds hopeful when we prove a mouse brain comes back from freezing unharmed, until you hear the cost!, however there is a hope for economically poor people but it requires great sacrifices and great team work help even from family or strangers or from selling things!, the cheapest freezing process that they accept is only freezing your brain cryonics companies and it costs according to them : "Tomorrow Bio company is charging around $200K for full body preservation and approximately $80,000 dollars for brain-only preservation."

Problem of brain freezing : 

  1. Even if revival is possible perfectly, the severe problem comes when you dont have any body!. Some science lovers or very few experts claim you will revived in a robotic body, some even some nanorobots will help to have a functional robotic body as replacement of the original body that is lost. The problem is that the promise of robotic body as replacement and that your brain will installed there is very speculative and we don't even know if thats even possible with current laws of physics or practical sciences. (Lets remind that we try to be as accurate as possible, yes brain connection to machine systems is possible and even scifi ideas of replacing visual connection with machine visual connection, this makes you practically see with digital eyes and live in a virtual world, recent discoveries show is not impossible, but making a robotic body as replacement for your brain sounds impossible so far, technologies often do not replace human skull when they connect to machines, we don't even know if replacing human skull with something else if is possible and then connect a body is possible, replacing entire organs and hormones so far sounds fantasy and not real scifi.
  2. When it already sounds scientifically impossible since no machine can replace biological complexity and adaptibility level, there are already people that hate the idea of leaving behind biology and living for eternity like that!, especially when they see it is impossible. Yes maybe it worths it to try to freeze rather than die and become dust by spending so much money with family helping for a speculative hope, but not everyone want spend insane money to speculative or fantasy hopes for brain freezing.

Is there a real scientific solution for brain freeze problem? : Yes there is.

Why recreating entire machine systems and even attempt a unsafe extremely unpredictable process that never happen in history in real humans when it comes to replace bodies, let alone a freezed mere brain that come back from freezing?.. we barely had a mice brain revived back that worked, so the answer is instead of machines recreation we should recreate the user entire body again!. 

Ok how?, the answer lies on the cloning technologies and the good news are, technology for cloning without flaws become finally reality and thats not a futuristic technology but is something that happened now recently in 21 century!. Those who say "cloning is complex and does not work, it has problems and you die with a extremely short lifetime." this claim will get debunked with this claim : "Oregon Health & Science University has cloned nonhuman primates. That leaves only humans." If primates can be cloned, it makes no sense why humans could not, this leaves only ethical barriers.


Logical solution for giving a brain body :

  1. Scientists or many people rarely are getting creative and rarely find genius ways to solve problems and instead they just wait for miracles. Those who freeze their brains, they can revived by cloning technologies!. Ethical problems rise once it comes to living beings when it comes for science uses that have no real global benefit often, but you can't rise a ethical issue in dead bodies if you cloned a body without a brain or a clone that was always dead. Yes challenges always exist, but we try as much as possible to push the boundaries of whats possible with creative thinking that many ignore!, the fact we show non mastered or not a perfected solution for poor people to afford and come back from mere brain to whole body, it brings real hope even more in 100 years or even in a 300 years what genius might try to master cloning and brain together to get body!. 

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  2. What we can do with current technology if we safely unfreeze a person brain and find a way to connect with perfect surgery a body back?, we could just bring a clone and make the clone to go at coma state for ever and never wake up. Once the clone body become at the same age of the person or even a young age person even if the person is old (if science allows it about younger body.. assuming the person froze in a era where biological immortality was not reality) then they could just bring it inside the skull the brain and somehow repair the skull. Another way maybe grow a skull directly from the brain as source, the brain creating somehow a skull like a tree root for itself?, thats our idea but i guess repairing a skull or just reviving back someone with current technology level almost to broken skull is the only option. Head surgery is explored from some deep thinkers and were going to give you one video about it, but please ignore the fact that they mention they need some brain dead to make it possible, cloning humans as offer extremely more efficient and near impossible for your body to reject it, unlike the scifi concept of head surgery replacing a body that rejects the body in this video, our perfect cloning has no such weakness, no magical tech needed to solve that because thats just science problem.. the only speculative element is the perfect surgery and thats where you must focus on the video, enjoy the video! : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szXbuUlUhQ4
  3. What about the cost of cloning their bodies and that they grow it?, well the users that got frozen will be in debt to the companies that allowed a body clone and the fact the money that was spended to rise those clones. Usually a real human spends.. if we want to make a very predictable calculation for 20-40 years of money spending, we must search for "how much money average human spends in lifetime?" and many sources claim "The average person spends about $3.3 million in their lifetime. Housing is the biggest expense, making up about 44% of lifetime spending. Transportation costs can add up to nearly $470,000 over a lifetime." But here we talk about a dead body that never wakes up and is always in a coma with artificial feeding and such, no house required and that means 44% of costs are removed, no trasnportation are required and that means zero money about it. So once the problems are solved for those specific frozen humans, before revival they will try to grow their cloned body with brain or without, it will be great to clone a brainless human tho and keep it alive, thats the best way to do it, it will take 20 years or depends if the science only allows the same age revival, so the cost depends too. 
  4. What about head surgery problem and blood?, don't worry!.. while  this video might sound extremely hard due to public outcry and claims like "Human anatomy might differ drastically, not only by size, but also blood vessel, muscle etc structures." as we said our cloning solution is the ultimate offer and this outcry claim is already outdate at this point and solved somewhat. Yes in a way even for a clone that grows up might have minor changes due to entropical information changes, not everything grow in deterministic way.. at least there is no confirmation that a clone would deterministically perfectly grow the same, but we know it would very close to original!. The video about head surgery from hashem AI-ghalli shows a way to make sure the brain is safe while surgery, but here many forget that we just have a frozen brain and a cloned body!, you don't need anymore head surgery!.. thats a logical solution to the surgery ability, so surgery abilities all they require are is carefully putting the brain in the skull and repair the skull. We have small level examples of putting things inside a skull and that was neuralink from elon musk, but removing entire skull is another level and removing the original brain and connect it with our frozen brain, still is extremely easier compared to head change surgery for a random person that is brain dead that has rejection problems chances based on hashem video!.

Is there any ethical problem?, in practical sense no!.

Why is that?, if we cant grow humans brainless, the problem just started and it expands beyond that. One prime example of it?, is the fact that the cloned person still requires a woman and guess who will suffer for a random person just to give a birth?, thats right the woman that will birth the clone!. Now some experts scientists claim this is a engineering problem and it could solved in a decade and the only real barrier is, well.. stupid emotional humans and low iq arguments by calling it "is not ethical" when there is no real threat and actual reason, all is about tradition and that could be done with "artificial womb" technology, the baby will be outside in the womb and no woman is needed to suffer!.. the baby will grow in that device. Here is a source that explains in more detail :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2RIvJ1U7RE and here is a detailed science article about it : https://www.phystro.com/post/world-s-first-artificial-womb-facility-with-super-intelligent-babies-ethics-say-no


Another way to make it democratic and ethical, there could be a offer for cloned humans to get birthed if artificial womb is not possible, the offer is giving money for womans who give birth.. the cost will depend on how many people want babies because if everyone want to have babies then it is economically damaging to give everyone 1 million euros, countless womans would definitely want if such million euros offer existed, so if everyone want money then maybe 10000 euros for a baby to be born!, if she wants to have second clone then no problem she can still sign up. If giving birth is extremely rare then make sure you give a offer of 1 million euros!, such a offer will make inevitable to have always a woman to give a birth.. if not then just rise up the price.

 

If some emotional humans scream "what about the cloned human?, doesnt this sound like the dystopic movie of island" thing?. Not really because it has no past memories if the person grows up since baby, it is practically a extremely primitive human if the cloned person still has the original brain that was grown, even if the clone wake up he/she would not understand anything, is no different than killing a animal for survival but here is just advanced form of that idea. Another justified support for using clones for cryonics later in life, is the fact if the cloned person never wakes up, aside from the fact that the person never lived and is practically a animal, if the clone never wake up then is practically dead and only alive biologically, it means it never existed to begin with, only the atoms were ordered and activated but they are never active of self sustaining state like every creature does, thats practically a dead person and is artificial life at this point, so our goal is to make sure no one ever dies and that justifies it!.

How we solve the problem of the economy in case of economically poor people and not only the riches escape the time of death?.

Thats why we call governments and all scientists and human right and human life supporters to make a effort to make time skip ability with freezing affordable for everyone!, they just revived a mouse brain as proof of concept!.. this should be enough to give hope everyone because this confirmed cryonics can be real science if science gets advanced enough!, so please everyone try to beg rich people and cryonics to make it more affordable and replace traditional burrying as optional way!, make the governments pay for them to be more affordable. 

The reason of every person why should revolt about about cryonics and beg everyone to make it cheap?, I dont want to born again in a infinite big bangs into a extreme suffering since 21 century and even 19 century is a extreme level anomaly that is unlikely to occur easily, intelligent mechanism itself is extremely unlikely so let alone our century.. not just that, thats assumming were living in a extremely safe area in the cosmos where supernovas and black holes are everywhere and destroying everything just like that.. supernova explosions could come at any moment and here on earth were very lucky that most threats are so far that nothing can hurt us practically!, supernova explosions with gamma rays hitting a planet must a common thing in the universe.. here were just lucky!.

Solution 2 :
If many people do not care about revolting and are mentally unstable and non-logical that they accept death even if they will born in a extreme suffering even when we confirmed such thing and confirmed that god cannot exist if it is intelligent, because we show whats the nature of intelligent?.. then only solution here is having your family accepting your salvations by freezing your brain and get somehow 80.000 dollars!, one example could be by selling your entire house just to save one family member if the person had severe stroke or severe cancer and doing it out of love, if the love is enough powerful factor then you can do it!. For example isaac mosinyan knows about greece and most cheap houses are selled at the price of €70000-100000 by default the cheapest and in some cases a cheaper house could be rarely a €54000 euros, if they already buyed the house then they can sell it and get the money to give the company to freeze the brain person even if the person died.

Solution 3 :
There are times where everyone are pleasing for money from strangers on social media, like asking a kid is dying and please donate, it happens very often.. people should spend at least 1 euro or dollar for the person that inevitably will die, that way alot of people will get saved!. If this becoming tradition, guarantees that one day if death comes for you, you will be saved from society and people because they understand one day might come death for them.. IT SHOULD BECOME TRADITION, you are saving a human!. If 80000 people give money, the people will be saved!, heck even 200000 people if they give money to the person that might die, he/she definitely will be saved with just giving 1 dollar or euro!. In terms of advanced society, were medieval modern society now sadly and empathy is lacking even when common sense shows cryonics are equal to resurrection and immortality practically if a person get revived in 1000 years, it doesn't matter because the dead do not the feel time!. Please, thats the most efficient way to save human lives instead of waiting people to sell their houses and harm families economically to suffer when there is no need to!. Cryonics are real hope because mouse brain is prime example that biology can be revived!, the solution is very close and is matter of when because it requires only to make it very safe and revive a whole brain instead of sliced mouse brain, basically now our next step is human brain tests for revival.

Conclusion :

Death is unpredictable because a car could hit you, if you are not a member of cryonics it will take some time to make the papers and the process to convince the cryonic worker experts to come and take the body of the person that just died even if he/she had the money. One safe approach could be a member of cryonics by spending monthly money and is quite cheap, it is €50.00 per month!. So if you are already adult and working, is safer to give money especially if you have a terminal ilness or some severe cancer.. especially a brain cancer or some strokes!.

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