Science in 2025 confirms with human cloning technology humans can live for ever!

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In case if you want to know the history of evolution of immortality chase, you can go to this link and see how all this madness with religion and immortality started since they cannot exist without each other often. : https://objectivity-converter.webnode.gr/l/science-confirms-with-human-cloning-technology-humans-can-live-for-ever/ 

REMINDER THAT WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO GIVE HOPE HUMAN RACE TO AVOID DEATH, the same method could work against cancer and organ failures too!.. not just immortality!. If all other methods fail, this will definitely work perfectly!, deterministic logic sometimes can find creative ways to defeat aging that medical experts sometimes cannot even imagine because they dont connect the dots!.

Since the beginning of human race, humanity lived with the artificial result of nature or lived under an illusion that they called circle of life and that was aging itself, aging is a process that no matter what they did.. nothing could stop it, the more you aged the more it felt like a curse because life got harder for you, you get weaker and even more diseases in medieval times. The definition of disease over time changes, in the medieval times they thought disease are evil spirits and was caused by demons or due to sin or astrology or because supenatural powers cursed them or god punished them for insulting him with so many sins on the planet. Eventually this definition changed in modern times and they start to understand it as failure of biological system. Modern science definition of disease is now known as a process that current science can solve it or cure it, disease by definition is natural process that it can be engineered with enough complexity and is not something laws of physics prevent it, there for no disease in practice can be inevitable. So how aging itself would belong to the category of disease?, the only way is to reverse human cells aging itself, that marks the day that aging is just a process that it can be solved with medical science and that means is no longer practically a impossible barrier based on laws of physics and is not speculative disease but it is a real disease, because it fits in the category of disease definition. With this realization came the ultimate question: If disease is simply a process that can be cured, then why should aging be any different? For centuries, the idea of reversing aging was unthinkable, dismissed as fantasy or science fiction.

David sinclair biological immortality is promising, but not confirmed to be truly current science.

David Sinclair's groundbreaking research into age reversal and biological immortality is humanity's best hope to cure aging. With thousands of human cells now reversed, and monkey eyes rejuvenated, the future looks promising.

But what if it takes centuries to perfect? What if biological immortality is harder than expected? Do we just accept death? NO!, we gone too far to stop now! and it would a huge sad tragic waste of time after so much effort just to become slaves of death when pushed reality to its limits to achieve eternal life!.

If Sinclair's method fails or takes too long, we already have a backup plan for immortality!. This is not science fiction, our claim it belongs to the category : "Confirmed Current science technology level." that even david sinclair progress did not achieved this title!. it is the only practical, real-world alternative to defeating death without waiting for perfect biological age reversal or for some miracle technology. David sinclair achievement of reversing thousands of human cells belongs to category : "Non-confirmed current science technology level." and it only belongs to "confirmed that biological immortality is not impossible with medical science on humans." and all it reiquires is scaling like the monkey eye organ that got entirely reversed, the same could apply to humans since the method is known for organs that are complex with some adaptations.

What If Biological Immortality from david sinclair Takes Too Long? The Ultimate Backup Plan :

For some reason many people are not creative and visionary enough to see the truth, that biological immortality with current technology is achievable!, forget david sinclair if you do not trust his results (even tho are almost confirming immortaltiy is real.. some could dare to say it perfectly confirms immortality is real.) we can prove you with current technological steps, it is achievable and we introduce you: [cloning technology!.]

Ok how?, the answer lies on the cloning technologies and the good news are, technology for cloning without flaws become finally reality and thats not a futuristic technology.. but is something that happened now recently in 21 century!. Those who say "cloning is complex and does not work, it has problems and you die with a extremely short lifetime." this claim will get debunked with this claim : "Oregon Health & Science University has cloned nonhuman primates. That leaves only humans." If primates can be cloned, it makes no sense why humans could not, this leaves only ethical barriers.

1️⃣ Cloning a Perfectly Matched Body Is Already Possible in Principle

Cloning technology is already very advanced stage, healthy cloning like a actual creature now is reality.
Scientists have cloned monkeys, proving human cloning is possible since we share very similar DNA with primates, here there is more detail about the cloning primate why cloning technology makes it possible without flaws?.. :

The only real barrier is, well.. stupid emotional humans and low iq arguments by calling it "is not ethical" when there is no real threat and actual reason, all is about tradition!. If some emotional humans scream "what about the cloned human?, doesn't this sound like the dystopic sci-fi movie of island thing with toruring souls that are self aware about their pasts?." Not really.. because it has no past memories if the person grows up since baby, it is practically a extremely primitive human if the cloned person still has the original brain that was grown. Even if the clone wake up he/she would not understand anything, is no different than killing a animal for survival but here is just advanced form of that idea, is basically a newborn in adult body if the person wakes up and i doubt the person will be able to even open the eyes and walk, let alone talking even if the clone wakes up as 5 year old. Another justified support for using clones for immortality later in life, is the fact if the cloned person never wakes up, aside from the fact that the person never lived and is practically a animal that we need to kill to survive, if the clone never wake up then is practically dead and only alive biologically, it means it never existed to begin with, only the atoms were ordered and activated.. but they are never active as of self sustaining state like every creature does, thats practically a dead person and is artificial life at this point, so our goal is to make sure no one ever dies and that justifies it!. 

Anti-entropical nature is physics of life and absolute order is the meaning of life and that means immortality at any cost, imagine immortal geniuses how much it will increase order of life?, it will change the history of biology for ever!. Anyone who violates the physics of life, the atoms of those living beings are mathematically in deterministic path of death no matter what they do as long as they violate physics of life that is about absolute efficiency in survival, eternal death does not exist since eternal big bangs with deterministic logical model are becoming confirmed!.   

A human clone is just the next step—it is only delayed due to fake ethical concerns, not science.

All it requires is to use those clones and wait until they grow up the age we want and then we transfer their blood and all vital organs to the original user.  This creates an unbroken biological lineage where an individual continuously regenerates a version of themselves before aging significantly. Since aging results from accumulated cellular damage, the goal is to replace aged tissues and organs with young, genetically identical ones. A clone is a 100% genetic match, ensuring that organ rejection, immune system conflicts, or compatibility issues do not exist. The clone will get the best treatement that simulates the best healthy lifestyle of eating food. David sinclair pills say they simulate those who exercise, this could enchant those who do not want to go to gym or run with mere pills that somewhat replace gym and running.. especially running itself and thats great for the clones that will be on the bed for so many years because it simulates running benefits result. A more detailed claim : "For example, compounds like Resveratrol and NMN (Nicotinamide Mononucleotide) and Resveratrol together are thought to activate pathways similar to those triggered by caloric restriction or physical activity, These compounds may activate pathways like AMPK and SIRT1, which are involved in energy metabolism and mitochondrial function—key processes that are also enhanced by aerobic activities like running." They will be great help for the non-active clone that never wake up and move, this way we can artificially keep it healthy. What If Biological Immortality Takes Too Long? The Ultimate Backup Plan David Sinclair's groundbreaking research into age reversal and biological immortality is humanity's best hope to cure aging. With thousands of human cells now reversed, and monkey eyes rejuvenated, the future looks promising.

Organ transfer is established technology, is normal in everyday life in medical field.. no new science is required FOR IMMORTALITY. :  

Organ Transplant Success – Transplanting hearts, kidneys, and livers is a common medical practice. Organ rejection occurs due to genetic differences, but a clone eliminates this issue entirely, that means there is no risk to replace even all organs if we wanted to!. This is optional but, to avoid to risk shocking the body and get some damage, get the most vital organs first and those will make sure most of the body get young from the first clone in case if you dont want to replace instantly all your organs from the clone. 5 years later, you can start to get the rest of organs that were not that vital directly for survival and that will be the second clone that was sleeping.. 5 years organ age gap will not do any damage since heart and many vital organs were the first you got, so you will not die easily, especially if you later created many backup clones, this is a great loop. 

Young Blood Therapy – Studies show young blood reverses aging in old animals by rejuvenating stem cells, muscle tissues, and brain function. This means regular blood transfusions from a young clone can keep aging at bayNo Need for Theoretical Nanotechnology – Nanorobots have been proposed for cell repair and reversal of aging, but they are still in early development

The longest coma state human that was recorded was 45 years as record!. Some could go even beyond 25 years in a coma.. artificial coma technologies could exists. In case if it gets complicated, just wake up the clones time to time without giving them the chance to learn anything, they will be practically living animals without any intelligent.. they are practically dead already and is not the same with island sci-fi movie that way. The cloned humans could start as babies without any artificial coma state, so this ensures everything goes fine without risking the death of the clone, just feed it and make sure the clone does not learn anything to avoid severe ethical damage in society, that way we make sure they do not have any memory and killing a animal for survival is the same logic applied here for the clone. Were not experts but maybe every 5 years we should take them into artificial coma state for another 5 years?, this genius loop could ensure they will not die or anything.. maybe they could way for the clone to be 10 year old and then make it to sleep for another 5 years or in a coma at least?. It doesn't matter, we know experts can find out the right frequency of steps and achieve a perpetual safety system for immortality to make it happen!.

Cloning relies on natural biological processes that already work. Guaranteed Functionality – Unlike experimental therapies that attempt to rejuvenate old cells, cloning creates new, young cells from scratch, ensuring perfect biological function.

Since each clone will also age over time, a continuous cycle of clone-based rejuvenation would be established:

  • Every 20-30 years, a new clone is grown while the original person continues to live.
  • If you want to increase security of immortality, increase the number of clones that are sleeping.
  • Old organs and tissues are replaced with fresh ones from a new clone.
  • The cycle repeats indefinitely, keeping the original person biologically young forever.

TOO EXPENSIVE?. NOP, THINK AGAIN :

What about the cost of cloning their bodies and that they grow it?, well the users that got frozen will be in debt to the companies that allowed a body clone and the fact the money that was spended to rise those clones. Usually a real human spends.. if we want to make a very predictable calculation for 20-40 years of money spending, we must search for "how much money average human spends in lifetime?" and many sources claim "The average person spends about $3.3 million in their lifetime. Housing is the biggest expense, making up about 44% of lifetime spending. Transportation costs can add up to nearly $470,000 over a lifetime." But here we talk about a dead body that never wakes up and is always in a coma with artificial feeding and such, no house required and that means 44% of costs are removed, no trasnportation are required and that means zero money about it.

Never dying of aging should be FREE!, it could save beyond 1000 trillion per year and thats only in usa alone!

Nature journal here : https://www.nature.com/articles/s43587-021-00080-0

It shows even slowing down aging itself, it would save economy 36 trillion dollars per year! and thats just in usa.. imagine globally what would happen with mere 1 slowdown of aging. We don't talk about slowdown aging here but a total real immortality!, so if 1 year of slowdown aging saves so much money based on experts every year. Imagine a biologically immortal how much it would save in usa alone!?, it would be 1000 trillion dollars savement per year in usa, globally it would be even more higher, even 1000 trillion dollars in usa alone sounds quite understatement since i am not expert economist and i could be pessimistic instead here!, i mean 1 year slowing down saves in usa alone 36 trillion dollars, but ageless human in usa alone should save far more than 1000 trillion dollars logically but i try to be as pessimistic as possible here since as a owner of logic i am not expert about it.

🔹 In case of woman births if artificial womb cannot happen, as we said companies could offer a cost for a woman and for example if they offer 1 million euros for womans, the chances are high that more than 100 womans would accept if not more than 1000 womans. I mean even if normal womans reject it, adult industries womans would not care and onlyfans girls are thinking out of the box, they are already outsiders of society in a way, so 1 million euros sounds great.. especially adult industry womans that never have a child. Thats the worst scenario, in reality a balance number of average normal womans would give birth to a clone for 1 million euros.

Conclusion? The Only Guaranteed Path to Living Forever (Even If Sinclair Fails)

I mean, compared to any other forms of living for ever!, this is the most direct and simple based technology that were extremely close to make it happen. Instead of relying on hypothetical breakthroughs, cloning-based rejuvenation uses existing medical and biological technologies. By continuously harvesting young organs, blood, and tissues from clones, a person can replenish their body indefinitely without ever experiencing biological death.


Instead of relying on hypothetical breakthroughs, cloning-based rejuvenation uses existing medical and biological technologies. By continuously harvesting young organs, blood, and tissues from clones, a person can replenish their body indefinitely without ever experiencing biological death.

DEBUNKS MYTH THAT MAFIAS OR BIG PHARMA conspiracy theories WILL TRY TO HARM DAVID SINCLAIR :

Mafias always target those who destroy their unethical or business based income source, because we hear many claims like big pharma does not want a cure since cancer chemotherapy is better since treatement always involve money, but ageless society makes 1000 trillion in usa alone sound like a joke, a permisstic view since 1 year slowding down alone is 36 trillion dollars according to economist experts!, here we talk about total reversal and ageless society!, i cant imagine the optimistic actual number that is beyond 1000 trillion dollars savement per year in usa alone, imagine globally!.

The Final Blow to the Myth of Aging

Despite all these breakthroughs, skeptics still clung to their old fears. They wanted to believe aging was unbeatable because that's all humanity had ever known. Generations of suffering created generational trauma—the idea of defeating aging was so alien that even science fiction refused to touch it.

  • Not a single mainstream sci-fi movie or anime seriously explored biological immortality, in reality they dont even thought the idea of defetaing aging would happen with biological sciences and instead they explore the idea of defeating aging in non-serious way with ideas like "cyborg humans" or with nanomachines. Even if a movie about defetaing aging was extremely rare in movies, they always added severe dystopic element to such blessful idea instead of normal achievement like we did with 21 century technologies without extreme dystopian elements.. all because deep down, humanity feared the idea or they idea of biological immortality sounded too good to be true.. ageless human or biologically immortal was thought to be a mythical-fantasy desire of defeating death.
  • Even in fiction-scifi or fantasy animes, immortality was either with deadly issues or with a curse, not a single form of movie made properly the idea of never aging and that achieved with real science of biology rather than stupid nanorobots that sound extremely scifi, biological science is more realistic with AI systems.
  • With this, the greatest enemy of human existence—aging—was exposed for what it truly is: a solvable problem.   
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